This fairly short overnight walk is a great way to explore Erskine Creek. The walking along Erskine creek is mostly off track, and is through thick scrub in places. Although this walk could be done in a day, an overnight walk gives more time to explore the creek and enjoy the caves in the area.
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This walk passes through a remote area and sections have no visible track. At least one person in your group should have training and experience in off track walking and navigation. Even with these notes and a GPS these extra skills and equipment are required.
There are Closed areas in Blue Mountains National Park Today's Fire rating LOW MODERATE (No fire ban)
Bushwalking track notes photographs, maps and camping spots for Dadder Cave and Jack Evans track
Cross sectional view of the Dadder Cave and Jack Evans track bushwalking track
Analysis and summary of the altitude variation on the Dadder Cave and Jack Evans track bushwalking track
Overview of this walks Grading - Based on the AS 2156.1 - 2001
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Under this standard, a walk is graded based on the most difficult section of the walk.
Length
10km
Time
2 Days
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Grade 6/6
Route: Unmanaged
AS 2156.1
Gradient
Very steep and difficult scrambles (5/6)
Quality of track
Off track (no visible track at times) (6/6)
Signs
No directional signs (5/6)
Experience Required
Very high level of bushwalking experience recommended (6/6)
Weather
Forecast, unforecast storms and severe weather may impact on navigation and safety (4/6)
Infrastructure
No facilities provided (5/6)
*This summary of grading information is new and still in testing
Some more detail of this walks Grading
Here is a bit more details explaining the grading looking at sections of the walk. Gradient
3.7km of this walk is very steep with difficult rock scrambles and another 3.1km is very steep. Whilst another 2.7km has gentle hills with occasional steps and the remaining 790m has short steep hills.
Quality of track
5km of this walk follows a known route where there is no visible track and another 2.4km follows a smooth and hardened path. Whilst another 1.4km follows a formed track, with some branches and other obstacles and a 760m section follows a clear and well formed track or trail. The remaining 410m follows a rough track, where fallen trees and other obstacles are likely.
Signs
7km of this walk Has no directional signs and another 1.8km is clearly signposted. Whilst another 1.1km has directional signs at most intersection and the remaining 850m has minimal directional signs.
Experience Required
5km of this walk requires a leader with a high level of bushwalking experience and another 2.6km requires no previous bushwalking experience. Whilst another 1.1km requires some bushwalking experience and a 720m section requires a leader a with moderate level of bushwalking experience. The remaining 610m requires at least one leader with a very high level of bushwalking experience.
Weather
5km of this walk is affected by forecast, unforecast storms and severe weather events that may impact on navigation and safety and another 3.8km is not usually affected by severe weather events (that would unexpectedly impact safety and navigation). The remaining (1.1km) is affected by storms that may impact your navigation and safety.
Infrastructure
6km of this walk has no facilities provided and another 1.8km is close to useful facilities (such as fenced cliffs and seats). Whilst another 1.7km has limited facilities (such as not all cliffs fenced) and the remaining 420m has limited facilities (such as cliffs not fenced, significant creeks not bridged).
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Drive to Pisgah Rock track head
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Pisgah Rock track head
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Pisgah Rock Intersection Track: Moderate - bushtrack
Length = 755 m
Time = 14 mins
Climb = 21 m
Descent = -17 m
From the Pisgah Rock car park (2.2km further along Nepean Lookout Fire Trail from the Oaks Picnic Area), this walk follows the 'Pisgah Rock 700mt' sign along the old management trail. The track meanders through the Eucalypt and Casuarina forest as it climbs a gentle hill and then heads down the other side. The track soon comes to an intersection with a small bush track off to the left, from the intersection there are glimpses of the valley views.
(0.76 km)
Pisgah Rock Intersection
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Attic Cave Optional sidetrip: Route: Hard - bushtrack
Length = 248 m
Time = 6 mins
Climb = 13 m
Descent = -23 m
Turn right: From the intersection, the walk follows the old management trail that very soon narrows into a bush track as it heads away from the view (keeping the valley to the left). The tracks then emerges from the bush to cut across a rock shelf and into the scrub again. Once in the gully the track turns left to climb down the 'V' in the rock. At the bottom of the climb the walk heads right under the now obvious sandstone cave. The walk continues following the base of this cliff line along a fairly clear track passing several interesting sandstone overhangs. Soon the track comes to a large overhang and fire circle at Attic camping cave. (Retrace your steps back to the main track, then veer right to continue along this walk.)
Attic Cave
Alt = 249 m
Attic Cave, near Pisgah Rock in the lower blue mountains is a large sandstone overhang. The cave has been used by walkers as an overnight camp for many decades. The cave could comfortably sleep about 5 people. There is a log book in a tin cake box on the rock shelf, making for some interesting reading, and awaiting your story. There is a fire circle, and the cave is reasonably well protected from the weather. The name Attic Cave is said to have come from the hole, a shelf, in the top of the cave, forming an attic.
(0.76 km)
Pisgah Rock Intersection
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Pisgah Rock Track: Moderate - bushtrack
Length = 22 m
Time = 1 mins
Climb = 0 m
Descent = -5 m
Veer left: From the intersection this walk takes the short bush track toward the view of the valley. The track comes to the unfenced cliff and great view from the top of Pisgah Rock and a sign posted 'take care when walking near cliffs'.
Pisgah Rock
Alt = 253 m
Pisgah Rock, is a short walk from Nepean Lookout Fire Trail in the lower Blue Mountains, and provides excellent views up Erskine Creek Gorge. The informal lookout is not fenced, and the surface is uneven with large crevasse like cracks. The view is simply amazing, with great views right up the middle of Erskine Creek Gorge. There are also great views to the left, down Erskine Creek Gorge and across the flats of the southern parts for greater Sydney. The rock presumably derives its name from the height point on Mount Nebo, where the Bible reports Moses seeing the promised land for the first time. In Hebrew pisgah refers to a high place. This Pisgah Rock is very much a high place, with great views.
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Pisgah Rock
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Junction of Erskine and Lincoln Crks Route: Unmanaged - bushtrack
Length = 605 m
Time = 21 mins
Climb = 18 m
Descent = -200 m
Turn right: From the 'take care when walking near cliffs' signpost on Pisgah Rock this walk now follows the rock at the top of the cliff keeping the valley below to the left. After passing a couple of very steep looking cracks in the rock, the faint track comes to a much more gentle looking pass with a large Banksia growing out of it. The walk heads down through this pass. The track turns right and heads down a much steeper climb through the V in the rock. At the bottom of this climb the bush track leads to a small unfenced rock platform. The walk then turns right heading down the couple more climbs then turns left back under the rock platform. The track continues to wind down several more steep rocky climbs following a faint track and cairns. after most climbs the track generally tends left and down hill. After the last climb, the track heads away from the cliff making, tending left heading fairly steeply to an intersection near the junction of Erskine Creek and Lincoln Creek.
Junction of Erskine and Lincoln Creeks
Alt = 71 m
The junction of Erskine and Lincoln Creeks, in the Blue Mountains National park, occurs at a large rock platform. The rock platform contains many water holes, a few large square boulders and a few short cascades. There are breath taking views up looking Erskine Creek Gorge. Looking up to the escarpment, to the north east, there is a view of Pisgah Rock. This area floods after rain, but when water levels are normal, this can be a lovely place to rest and enjoy the creeks and gorge.
(1.38 km)
Junction of Erskine and Lincoln Creeks
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Lower Lincoln Campsite Route: Hard - bushtrack
Length = 74 m
Time = 2 mins
Climb = 3 m
Descent = -4 m
Turn right: From the intersection, this walk cross Lincoln Creek at the rock pools staying upstream of the small cascade (this may be impassable after rain). On the other side of the creek the walk picks up a faint track heading gently up the ridge. Soon the track opens up into a large campsite with some wonderful grass trees.
Lower Lincoln Campsite
Alt = 71 m
This well established campsite is found about 60m up the spur, south west of the junction of Lincoln and Erskine Creek. The large campsite has enough room for 6-10 tents and has an established campfire with log seats. The campsite is set among some lovely eucalypt and grass trees. Water from both creeks should be treated before drinking. If this campsite is full, there are a few alternative smaller sites in the area, one further up the hill, and another down by Erskine Creek.
(1.46 km)
Lower Lincoln Campsite
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Dadder Cave Route: Unmanaged - undefined
Length = 1.54 km
Time = 32 mins
Climb = 67 m
Descent = -40 m
Turn left: From the eastern side of the campsite this walk follows the narrow track towards Erskine Creek. Just before the creek the track turns right and heads up stream. The track soon fades and becomes undefined, this walk continues along the flood bank to find a good spot to cross to the other side of Erskine Creek. There are a few cossing options before coming to the land slide, feet will most likely get wet (the creek may be impassable after rain). When crossing notice the rounded hill upstream, Dadder cave is about 1km before it. One on the eastern bank the walk continues upstream heading towards the rounded hill with Erskine creek now to the right. The walk passes several smaller caves and as the walk gets closer to Dadder Cave a fairly well defined track forms leading up behind a large boulder and into the cave. The cave is just upstream from, and on the opposite side of the gorge, from a gully entering Erskine Creek from the west. The cave has clearly been used for camping for some time, with a campfire, and left over camping material.
Dadder Cave
Alt = 99 m
Dadder cave, is a large sandstone cave, that has been used as a camping cave by bushwalkers for several decades. The cave is on the easter side of Erskine Creek, about 1.5km upstream from the junction with Lincoln Creek. The large cave is about 30m up the bank and fairly well protected from the weather. There is enough room to sleep about 6 people, more if people are comfortable with each other, and happy to spread along the full length of the cave. A large stone fire place, a bench seat, and a few other items have been left by previous walkers. A log book that makes interesting reading is found under a tarp at the high end of the cave. The cave make a great base camp, for walkers planning to spend some time enjoying Erskine Creek. The name 'Dadder' is believed to come from Death Adder, abbreviated to D'adder, and then finally to Dadder. Erskine Creek provides plenty of water, treat the water before drinking.
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Dadder Cave
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Junction of Erskine and Lincoln Creeks Route: Unmanaged - undefined,bushtrack
Length = 1.61 km
Time = 34 mins
Climb = 44 m
Descent = -70 m
Turn around: From Dadder cave this walk heads out the high end of the cave picking up, and following a track from the gum tree. The creek can be heard below and to the left, as the track heads around the large boulder on the uphill side. The track soon fades to a foot pad, and is not visible at times, but the walk continues following the creek downstream. The clearest route often takes the walker higher up the bank and across rock platforms and around boulders. The creek is not always clearly visible. The walk keeps the creek on the left until finding a good place to cross after passing the land slide on the oppersite bank (this creek may be impassable after rain). Once on the western bank the walk follows the flood bank, through the dense scrub. Before to long a faint track appears and becomes clearer as it leads down stream. About 50m before the junction with Lincoln Creek, the track turns left up away from the creek. Following this track left, leads up short hill to a large open campsite. Turn right: From the campsite, this walk takes the track from the lowest point in the campsite near the grass tress and heads down the hill. The track soon open up onto the rock pools on Lincoln Creek a few meters above Erskine Creek. The walk crosses Lincoln Creek upstream of the small cascade to find a track on the opperite bank near the large boulder (this may be impassable after rain).
(4.61 km)
Junction of Erskine and Lincoln Creeks
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Rock platform Route: Hard - undefined
Length = 261 m
Time = 7 mins
Climb = 22 m
Descent = -13 m
Veer right: From the intersection, this walk head downstream along Erskine Creek, keeping the creek to the right. After following the indistinct bush track for a short while it leads to an large open rock platform. The walk continues along the rock until coming to the edge of a large pool at the bottom of the cascades.
Rock Platform
Alt = 82 m
This is a rock platform on Erskine creek about 200m downstream from the junction with Lincoln Creek. The area does flood so depending on water levels this is usually a large rock platform with some interesting water holes, and a lovely cascade flowing into a shallow pool. Although this lacks the majestic view up Erskine Creek (found a short distance upstream), this spot does provide an open spot, great for a snack, lunch and to rest.
(4.87 km)
Rock platform
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Lower Erskine Campsite Route: Unmanaged - undefined
Length = 2.27 km
Time = 51 mins
Climb = 98 m
Descent = -141 m
Veer left: From the end of the rock platform, the walk heads downstream initially by following the rock fall on the northern bank. There is a faint foot pad that lasts a short while. Find a good place to cross to the other bank (may be impassable after rain), where a rock shelf on the southern bank make walking easier. After passing the large gully the foot pad has all but disappeared, the walk continues down stream keeping the creek on the left. About half way along the large cliff high on the other side of the creek, the bank on the western side becomes difficult to pass due to another cliff. From here find a good place to cross (may be impassable after rain) and pick up the faint foot pad on the other side. The foot pad continues downstream (now with the creek on the right) and passes a few rock platforms at times. The track becomes more distinct as it gets closer to Jack Evans track. Not far before Jack Evans track the footpad comes to a small campsite with a fire circle on the left.
Lower Erskine Campsite
Alt = 39 m
A small campsite, just up from the eastern bank of Erskine Creek, a short distance north of where Jack Evans track crosses the creek. The campsite has a small fire circle, and enough space for one maybe two tents. Erskine creek is a handy water supply (treat before drinking).
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Lower Erskine Campsite
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Int of Jack Evans Track and Erskine Creek Route: Hard - bushtrack
Length = 106 m
Time = 2 mins
Climb = 4 m
Descent = -2 m
Continue straight: From the campsite this walk heads down stream keeping the creek to the right. Following a faint bush track the walk soon comes to an intersection with the Jack Evans Track just above a small sandy beach.
(7.25 km)
Int of Jack Evans Track and Erskine Creek
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Int of Jack Evans and the lower Erskine tracks Route: Hard - bushtrack
Length = 101 m
Time = 2 mins
Climb = 6 m
Descent = -5 m
Turn left: From the intersection just above sandy beach on the creek, this walk follows the clear bush track away from the creek and up the gentle hill. The track soon turns right and follows the creek on the right, downstream for a little while. The track then tends left up hill passing through a tunnel of vegetation to emerge onto an intersection with the more distinct Jack Evans and lower Erskine tracks
(7.35 km)
Int of Jack Evans and the lower Erskine tracks
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Eastern side of natural dam wall Optional sidetrip: Route: Hard - bushtrack,undefined
Length = 182 m
Time = 7 mins
Climb = 30 m
Descent = -17 m
Turn right: From the intersection, this walk follows the wider bush track down hill keeping the sound of Erskine Creek to the right, soon the creek is in view. The track soon fades to a become a less distinct bush track leading up the bank away from the creek. The track climbs to a large boulder providing great views of the pool in Erskine Creek. The track then leads down to the natural charcoal deposits and continues along the creek edge to the water depth indicators. (A remote monitoring box is visible up the hill). Veer left: From the water depth indicators this walk follows the creek down stream keeping Erskine Creek on the right. The faint bush track soon leads to the visible series of large boulders forming a natural dam wall. (Retrace your steps back to the main track, then veer right to continue along this walk.)
Natural dam pool
Alt = 55 m
A series of very large boulders have formed a natural dam on Erskine Creek, about 170m north of Big Crater Creek. The dam forms a large lovely pool upstream. The pool is used by Sydney Water for measurements, and a water depth indicator is bolted to the rock. The pools is not safe to dive or jump into, there are many submerged objects.
(7.35 km)
Int of Jack Evans and the lower Erskine tracks
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Erskine Lookout Track: Hard - bushtrack
Length = 851 m
Time = 31 mins
Climb = 172 m
Descent = -28 m
Veer left: From the intersection this walk follows the wider bush track up the hill past the large gum tree. The track then comes to, and climbs a series of timber steps up to a distinct saddle. The track continues gently up the hill for a short distance to come to an intersection with the faint short cut track off to the right. Continue straight: From the intersection this walk follows the wider bush track up the gentle hill. The track is narrow in places with a drop off to the right. The track then starts to climb the hill using a series of steps and switch backs to wind up through the wonderful sandstone outcrops. The track passes a few nice caves and through gaps in the rock. After the last steep section the track comes to a large rock platform on the left (with some great views). The track continues to follow the main path up the hill, and passes a long sandstone wall on the left of the track. Soon after this sandstone wall, the track comes to a wide sandy patch, with and unfenced rock platform and view on the left. This is the Erskine Lookout, an informal unfenced lookout.
Erskine Lookout
Alt = 184 m
This informal and unfenced lookout on Jack Evans Track is in the lower Blue Mountains south west from the end of Nepean Lookout Fire Trail. The lookout is perched high above Erskine Creek and provides wonderful view upstream, and good views downstream. The view down in to the gorge gives a unique perspective of the lower section of Erskine Creek.
(8.2 km)
Erskine Lookout
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End of Nepean Lookout Fire Trail Track: Moderate - bushtrack
Length = 324 m
Time = 8 mins
Climb = 29 m
Descent = -1 m
Continue straight: From Erskine Lookout, this walk heads up the gentle hill, following the sandy track, keeping the view to the left. The track passes some informal tracks to the left, passes a burnt 'take care when walking near cliffs' sign, and continues up the hill getting a little steeper. The track then comes to a silver information sign about 'Jack Evans Track'. The track then bends left and comes to the car park at the end of the publicly accessible section of the Nepean Lookout Fire Trail.
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Car park at end of Nepean Lookout fire trail
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Pisgah Rock track head Walk: Easy - road
Length = 1.81 km
Time = 33 mins
Climb = 51 m
Descent = -9 m
Turn left: From the end of end of Nepean Lookout fire trail, this walk follows the road northward away from the locked gate initially keeping the car park to the left. The road soon comes to an intersection with Pisgah Ridge fire trail (a gated management trail on the right). Veer left: From the intersection, this walk follows Nepean Lookout fire trail north west around the left hand bend. The road soon comes to the Machins Crater car park. Continue straight: From the Machins Crater car park, this walk follows Nepean Lookout fire trail north west, up the hill, initially with Machins Crater track on the left. The road heads up the hill and soon comes the Pisgah Rock track head and car park.
Drive from Pisgah Rock track head
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Blue Mountains National ParkLink to official closures and fire bans page Attracting over 3 million visitors annually, Blue Mountains National Park holds some of Australia's most spectacular and diverse wilderness areas. Explore the Grose Valley, with its sheer sandstone cliffs, waterfalls and scenic walking, or enjoy the famous views of the Three Sisters. Easy access makes a day trips very worthwhile, but with such diversity it would be great to stay in one of the many B&B's and spend a few days soaking up the region. Region: Sydney & Surrounds Park feesCampingFacilities Current Park Closure information for Blue Mountains National Park Closure information last downloaded Sunday 27th of September 2015 07:00 AM Closed areas: Grand Canyon walking track The Grand Canyon walking track will be closed from Wednesday 14 October 2015 to mid-June 2016. The closure is necessary to allow work to continue on improving the walking track. Access for canyoners will be on weekends only. Access from Evans Lookout via Beauchamp Falls to the Grose Valley will remain open. Evans Lookout carpark, Loop carpark, and Neates Glen carpark will remain open. Penalties apply for non-compliance. For more information, please contact NPWS Blue Mountains Heritage Centre on (02) 47878877 or visit the NSW National Parks safety page for park safety guidelines.
Closed areas: Waratah Native Gardens Waratah Native Gardens picnic area is closed for maintenance. This includes the Gorge Walking track. No access to the area is permitted.Penalties apply for non-compliance. For more information, please contact NPWS Hawkesbury area office on (02) 4588 2400 or visit the NSW National Parks safety page for park safety guidelines.
Closed areas: Prince Henry cliff walk, Leura Blue Mountains City Council wishes to advise that Prince Henry cliff walk between Majestic lookout and the junction with the Leura Cascades walk is currently closed due to a landslip. Detours will be in place and clearly signposted around the affected area. Access from the Leura picnic area to the cascades is unaffected. For more information, please contact Blue Mountains City Tourism on 1300 653 408 or Blue Mountains Heritage Centre on (02) 4787 8877, or visit the NSW National Parks safety page for park safety guidelines.
Closed areas: Butterbox Swamp track The traditional access to Butterbox Canyon via the endangered swamp is now closed and rehabilitated. No access permitted. Canyoners should use the new track provided. Temporary signage is in place. Penalties apply for non-compliance. For more information, please contact Blue Mountains Heritage Centre on (02) 4787 8877 or visit the NSW National Parks safety page for park safety guidelines.
Closed areas: Claustral canyon access change Access to Claustral canyon via the previous route across private land at Mount Tomah is no longer possible due to landholders denying access. Canyoners should respect the rights of Mount Tomah residents and avoid using private land. Alternative access from the west side of Mount Bell has been identified. For more information, please contact the Blue Moauntains Heritage Centre on (02) 4787 8877, open seven days 9am to 4.30pm, or visit the NSW National Parks safety page for park safety guidelines.
Closed areas: Cahills lookout - Katoomba As a result of a recent bushfire, Cahills lookout remains closed until further notice. For more information, please contact Blue Mountains City Council on (02) 4780 5000.
Closed areas: Waratah Native Gardens Waratah Native Gardens Some areas of this park are closed due to a major landslip event occurring across The Gorge Walking Track. Closed areas include The Gorge Walking Track in the Blue Mountains National Park. A full assessment is underway to determine the extent of damage and to ensure the area is made safe. The Gorge Walking Track is closed at the entry trackhead however the Waratah Native Gardens Day Use and Picnic Area located off Valley Ridges Road Berambing (west of Bilpin) has now been reopened. This closure may be extended and any extension will be posted as soon as possible. For more information, please contact NPWS Heritage Centre on (02) 4787 8877, open seven days 9am to 4.30pm, or visit the NSW National Parks safety page for park safety guidelines
I've only done a small part of it (from Glenbrook to Erskine Creek).
I wanted to go further. However, many of the tracks around Erskine Creek have become dense. So some "bush bashing was required".
Always travel in a group and have some walking experience if attempting this one.
On the ridges evidence of past bush fires are evident. Beware during high risk fire season.
nstolk - Great overnight walk
IP:203.30.93.xxx | 2011-09-19 02:11:11
Did this one over the weekend - a great walk with a quiet campsite and some great swimming holes.
The trip down from Pisgah rock required dropping packs to each other in a couple of sections but is generally pretty clear.
The trip down from the Lincoln ck campsite to the start of Jack Evans track is quite variable with some scrub bashing required. We had a pretty warm weekend so there were quite a few red-bellied black snakes around but it also meant we appreciated the swim (the water is very cool).
Climb out using Jack Evans is a breeze.
Will be coming back to this one.
sue booth
IP:101.170.255.xxx | 2012-05-21 00:53:28
We did this track last weekend. We are 4 fairly experienced walkers, with at least 5 overnighters in the last year or so, and we really struggled with this walk. We think maybe the heavy rains and flooding of recent months have changed the terrain dramatically, with the track being difficult to nearly impossible most of the way. The walk down from Pisgah, as described by the previous walker , required dropping packs on at least three occasions, but this was a clear and defined walk. Estimated times were way out, 30 mins to Dadder cave from eskine creek junction took us 90 mins of clambouring, slipping ,climbing and crawling. On the return, the "walk" from eskine creek juntion to Jack Evans track which was estimated at 90 mins took us over 3 hours. We may have missed the track in places, but instructions were vague and landmarks not visible. This section of the track made the rest feel easy! The track is gone, through deadfall and flood damage, and i strongly recommend caution and plenty of time for anyone attempting this walk. The cave was great, with interesting reading in the log book, but the difficulty of getting in and out spoiled the weekend for us. More like combat training than bushwalking. :(
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Super Administrator | 2012-05-22 06:21:50
sue booth wrote:
More like combat training than bushwalking. :(
Hi Sue, thanks for the feedback - sorry you had such a hard time.
I will review the intra-walk times, they are sometime are to short on harder tracks.
This is an off track walk - so I am not surprised you could not find the track. Perhaps I need to make this much clearer, the Black Diamond grading, and the "Route: Hard - undefined" refers to off track walks.
I am working on a new system to explain each walks grade. I am still testing it but I will try to release it soon. I think I have your e-mail Sue, I will drop you a message there.
Thanks
Matt :)
Anna
IP:60.241.114.xxx | 2012-11-04 20:42:53
Just to confirm: It took me yesterday 2h10min along Erskine Creek because of bush bashing. Not very thick scrub but a lot of dead wood.
Also, I must have taken a wrong turn down Pisgah Rock as the track I took ended up a bit downstream in Monkey Ropes Creek. There it was marked with yellow and red ribbons, leading back to Lincoln Creek. Again, it took a bit longer, about 1h-1h20min (incl. break).
But great swimming, great views, good walk!
eline
IP:129.78.233.xxx | 2013-08-26 01:58:49
Couldn't find the start of this track. Did another walk instead.
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Super Administrator | 2013-08-30 04:51:07
eline wrote:
Couldn't find the start of this track. Did another walk instead.
Hi Eline
Sorry for the hasle finding the start of the walk. Here is a photo of the carpark and sign. http://www.wildwalks.com/i.html?image_id=143601
There is also a description in the first tracknote on how to find the start. Also the "getting there" tab will help you find a map showing you the start.
If you have any suggestions I would be keen to make this easier for people.
Hope you enjoyed the other walk.
Matt :)
Ryan
IP:211.30.200.xxx | 2015-03-07 09:35:50
Did this walk today in the opposite direction, descending down Jack Evans and up Pisgah Rock.
Except for the sections close to Lincoln junction and Jack evans we saw very little evidence of a trail along erskine creek. Instead had to bush bash most of the way and wade across the creek a couple of times when one side became impassable.
However still quite enjoyable, excellent swimming spots and good views from both lookouts as well as the rock platforms just before the lincoln junction.
Just for the reference of anyone going in the opposite direction: Don't walk up lincoln creek to find the track up to pisgah rock! The track starts just before the junction on erskine creek. It's hard to spot as a tree has fallen over the entrance :( Took us about 30min of backtracking down lincoln creek to realise this as the track on the topographic is a bit deceiving!
Nathan - Great spot, awful track notes!
IP:144.132.243.xxx | 2015-07-08 05:37:20
The walk and the scenery during this walk are quite lovely, and the campsite is really quite nice and perfectly situated.
However there definitely are plenty of overgrown parts of the track, and because the track isn't very well defined in some areas, it's quite easy to end up down the wrong path.
This in itself isn't so much of an issue, but when you have awful track notes like the ones provided on this site, it can be very problematic. I implore people who are looking to take on this track to not pay attention to the track notes whatsoever, especially since at one stage, the author decides that vegetation (Banksia bush) is an appropriate landmark to base directions off; bloody idiot. I would have much preferred just a batch of Grid References, so I could navigate my own way there, and even if I went off track, still be able to find my way easily enough.
admin - re: Great spot, awful track no
Super Administrator | 2015-07-08 05:52:06
Nathan wrote:
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This in itself isn't so much of an issue, but when you have awful track notes .... bloody idiot. I would have much preferred just a batch of Grid References, so I could navigate my own way there, and even if I went off track, still be able to find my way easily enough.
Hi Nathan
Thanks for the message - I hope you enjoyed the walk.
I am the 'bloody idiot' who wrote these notes. I am sorry found the that bad.
Track notes on grade 5 and 6 walks are really just there to provide some extra assistance. I state at the start for the notes that "This walk passes through a remote area and sections have no visible track. At least one person in your group should have training and experience in off track walking and navigation. Even with these notes and a GPS these extra skills and equipment are required."
For this walk the notes are just there to give you a sense of the journey and to give a few tips for navigation.
I am looking at how I can provide GR for each waypoint along the walk as a future addition to the site.
Thanks for your feedback.
Matt :)
Hiking near Sydney 
Route: Unmanaged
1 km
A park entry fee is required for driving into the park.
not too much longer now :)